This is Fahrradio, a podcast about everything and the bicycle. In September 2018 Hans talked to Horace Dediu about micromobility. In january 2019. he is organising the first micromobility conference in California. Here is the complete interview, which hasn't lost any of it's relevance.
Für die deutschsprachigen Hörer: Heute is alles in englischer Sprache. Bleibt trotzdem dran. Es lohnt sich.